AMERICA, WHO HURT YOU? EPISODE 7
Jane Fonda: And I decided that I was going to leave everything behind and become an activist I have been vilified. I’ve been shot at. I’ve had bombs dropped around me. Homes have been broken into and phones tapped and threatened and all of that. I wouldn’t give up a moment of it and go back to the empty life. I think that every one of us needs to feel that our life has meaning
Sarah Jones: Hi, everybody. Welcome to America Who Hurt You, the pod where we talk in many voices about politics, our trauma, and how we can heal them both. I’m your host, Sarah Jones, and I’m here with a few co hosts, Rashid.
Rashid: Yeah. What’s up America?
Sarah Jones: Nereida.
Nereida: Hola, hola, everybody.
Sarah Jones: Lorraine.
Lorraine: Hi there.
Sarah Jones: And Bella.
Bella: Hi everyone.
Sarah Jones: So you already know they’re not exactly co hosts. They are my characters from my one person shows and my movie, Cell By Date. And they’re probably going to jump into interviews with our guests. But especially today, since this week, our guest is the one and only Jane Fonda.
Lorraine: I can’t believe it. You know, she won an Oscar for both Clute and Coming Home. I just rewatched them both.
Bella: Well, in the workout video I found on YouTube, she’s giving like leotard leg warmer feminism. I just knew she was a sag.
Nereida: I was trying to finish reading her memoir in time for this, but then I’ve also been phone banking for my congressman, volunteering at a soup kitchen, plus campaigning for this climate justice group I just joined, and I
Lorraine: Oh my goodness, Nereida, slow down. Where’s the fire?
Nereida: Um, Lorraine, the fire is literally the entire planet.
Rashid: Aight I know it’s a lot right now, but if you burn yourself out, you kind of like add into the fire.
Nereida: Rashid, don’t shame me when I’m just trying to do everything I can. It’s not my fault there’s only 24 hours in the day and like five minutes until the election.
I can’t tap out now.
Sarah Jones: Nereida, I get it. And I think this conversation with Jane Fonda could actually help you. People might hear her name and just think Hollywood celebrity, but she has decades of experience as a serious activist and movement leader. Plus, she’s had years of practice at finding balance so she doesn’t burn out.
Rashid: Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about. Longevity. Especially since ain’t nobody solving these problems overnight.
Bella: Yeah, totally. Like it’s a whole marathon, not just one amazing aerobics class from the 80s.
Sarah Jones: that’s why I’m so excited to talk to Jane and hear not just how she got into activism, but how she’s found these connections between all the issues she cares about and how she sustains herself through all this work all these years.
Jane, you are one of the busiest people. I literally don’t know how you do it all.And you know, one of the things I love so much about being around you
Jane Fonda: We’ve spent a lot of time together
Sarah Jones: We’ve spent a lot of time together. I looked at my life and I was like, what did I do to deserve hanging out with Jane Fonda this much? This is a lot of Jane, but the truth is. because of the way you lend your voice to people who otherwise wouldn’t be I already knew you as this iconic figure, but
for people who maybe don’t know, who are, you I’m thinking of my Gen Z, character.
Bella: Jane, I know you like you’re, it’s true. You’re iconic and like truly iconic, not in the way that like, you know, like, if you get a really great haircut, you’re iconic, you’re like actually iconic, also great haircut. Um, but for those of us who like, the first time we saw you maybe was like monster in law or like Grace and Frankie and like then.
If, like, we go Google you, you’re, like, getting arrested as, like, an activist
Jane Fonda: Tell us, like, for people who don’t know. Like, how would you describe yourself Whoa. Well,
I’m white. I’m privileged. I’m the daughter of a famous movie star. Who’s name is Henry Fonda. Um, my mother died when I was 12. She suffered from mental illness. My brother died from lung cancer a few years ago. He was an actor. Um, I was. I think totally lost and unhappy for the beginning part of my life.
Then I became hedonistic. Then I learned the truth about the Vietnam war. I was 31. I was pregnant and I decided that I was going to leave everything behind and become an activist to end the war
Sarah Jones: Wow. I just have to pause you for a second because already Bella, that character,Like, what’s the hedonism part like? Like, I need to know more,
Jane Fonda: I did a lot of playing around people say, oh, my God, you’re so incredible. You’ve been an activist all your life. I haven’t, which in a way is good because the before and after is very vivid for me. And I would not turn back for anything in the world.
I have been vilified. I’ve been shot at. I’ve had bombs dropped around me. Homes have been broken into and phones tapped and threatened and all of that. I wouldn’t give up a moment of it and go back to the empty life. I think that we need all of us. Every one of us needs to feel that our life has meaning. Feel to feel that they could answer the question. Why am I here? What am I supposed to be?
you know, and it’s very hard when you’re young. I’m speaking now to, um, what’s what’s her name with the glasses
Sarah Jones: Oh,
Bella: me, Bella? Yeah. Oh my God.
Jane Fonda: Bella, it’s very hard to be young, you know, to figure out a lot of questions when you’re young.
But I remember how much my life changed and how happy I became when I became an activist. It was fun. The people that I met were people that I, I just, it was, I had never met people like that before. I mean, my dad was a little bit like the people I met when I became an activist in that he was a very, he had really solid values and, and, um,
Bella: What values? Like, I, I’m so super curious.
Jane Fonda: justice. I mean, think of the, he, you know, he produced and starred in the movie 12 angry men.
He also starred in, he played the lead character in grapes of wrath, the great Steinbeck novel. The wrong man, the oxbow, so many movies about justice and fairness to the underdogs.
Sarah Jones: Ok, that’s enough from Bella. It’s Sarah again, Jane. So do you feel like your experience growing up with your dad and you also mentioned your mom’s mental illness, which I can really relate to having family members with mental health issues and how that impacted me. I think for so many people, trauma means you’ve been through a war or you’ve been through something, you know, kind of unspeakable and terrible.
But the idea of something like having a mom who’s struggling with mental health issues that can be traumatic for a kid or,For me, it’s just a part of my story that I had to be resilient in a certain way. And I feel like you’ve talked about that is how does that connect up with the woman you’ve become, but also what you got from your dad, what, what you got maybe from your mom, I actually got something from my relatives with mental health issues, you know, alongside the struggles.
I’m curious about any of that.
Jane Fonda: Well, my dad, you know, I once had a conversation, a phone conversation with, um, Martin Luther King’s daughter. I asked her if, if, if her father had bounced her on his knees and talked to her about life and values and how to behave and blah, blah, blah. And she said, no, he didn’t.
Sarah Jones: Hmm.
Jane Fonda: And I said, yeah, my father never did too.
You had your father’s sermons.
Sarah Jones: Right.
Jane Fonda: I had my father’s movies. And so, because each of us respected and loved our fathers, those sermons and those movies inculcated values in us, unconsciously. It was like, um, the soil. I grew up with a fertile soil that was then fertilized
when I was older
older
Sarah Jones: Hmm.
Jane Fonda: by the people that were fighting against the Vietnam War.
Sarah Jones: Wow. And so really, you. It took your experiences of, you know, in part, your dad’s movies raising you as much as maybe he raised you. But I think that’s really powerful too, right? Because we have to find what we can.
but I want to focus You know, the part of you that, as you said, was lost,
but you also are so clearly, you know who you are now. Was there a spark in you even in your teenage years, in your twenties, even when you felt lost, was there a sense of like, well, I feel lost, but I know there’s something in here. I just have to find it.
Where is it? What is it? Did you have that?
Jane Fonda: Well, you know, resilience is an interesting thing. I don’t know if you can create, I think you’re born with it, or you’re born without
- Mysterious thing. Um, I was born with it. And what I mean by that is in spite of the, um, instability, inconsistency at home, um, I was always as a little girl scanning the horizon, like a laser beam, an infrared beam for any warm body that could teach me something or take care of me or love me.
I was, I was sexually abused at 7 and, um.
My mother was abused when she was the same age 7 years
old. And I always knew as a child that something bad had happened to her. Um, That she could not be present as a, as a mother. And I, but I didn’t know what it was until I was, you know, much later in my
actually I was in my 60s writing my memoir. And, um. I managed to access the records of my mother when she was in, she committed suicide in an institution, and I discovered that way that she’d been abused. And that kind of thing is passed from what happens to a person who’s been abused can manifest.
In future generations
Sarah Jones: Yes.
Jane Fonda: I was, I have been a resilient child and, um, have always, I’ve never felt that I was good enough. So I always committed myself to getting better. Whatever that meant, whether it meant joining a religion, whether it meant going into therapy, meditate, all those things.
I’ve worked very, very, very hard on myself.
Sarah Jones: you’re making me think of something I’ve heard and I wonder if this resonates with you. The idea that, you know, with trauma We hope to bounce back from it, right? But some people bounce forward and that’s what you’re describing, right?
the fact that you’ve become an activist who is so passionate, who, you know, lends your voice to people who have either experienced trauma. You could think of the planet as experiencing the trauma that human beings, are perpetrating against it.
you have a unique ability to empathize. would you think of it as empathy that when you meet other people who perhaps, like you said, you just discovered this, right? you’ve been Jane Fonda out there in the world doing all the incredible things you’ve been doing all these years.
before learning about your mother. I’m thinking about listeners out there who maybe haven’t yet discovered, or they can feel there’s something there. how would you help people arrive at the decision to, okay, I’m going to do some personal work or I’m going, and not everybody is a movie star.
Jane Fonda: Not everybody is a white woman with privilege as you describe yourself, but. what can help us if you think about, uh, activism out there in the world, it’s almost like we need to be activists within, like, what can we do to take really committed action to uncover or discover whatever might be going on with us? Yeah, I think it has to be both. I mean, because I could have done all the work on myself But right now, if I wasn’t an activist, I would be so depressed because of what’s happening to the planet. So, I think it requires both. Um, well, partly it requires being curious. I think one of the most important things is to stay curious, you know, little children are curious, but why, what looking at things, picking them up, asking questions, questions, questions.
Well, it’s good to stay that way. I learn every day. so I think it was curiosity that made me want to be better. That made me want to, to,overcome my insufficiencies and inadequaciesand, and just knowing that you actually can change how you behave.
You can change how youPresent to the world all those kinds of things, you know, but you have to be You have to really dig down and, and, and work at it. Part of it is reading books about psychology and why certain like, you know, when I, when Ted Turner, my third husband and I were divorced in 2000, I realized that I really needed to understand him in a way that I couldn’t when I was living with him, and so I read a lot of books like Alice Miller’s, um, the drama
Sarah Jones: of the Drama of the Gifted child
and it shed a lot of light on him. And consequently, I could learn about how I was in the relationship. What was my role and, you know, having it not last forever, et cetera, and so forth. So, I do a lot of reading, and I think reading is really a good way to learn stuff that you might not know from your friends or from watching television.
So that’s 1 thing writing. I’ve written a book that I like a lot. It’s called what is it called?
If it’s my favorite.
Jane Fonda: It’s called primetime. That’s right. Um, in order to write that I sometimes write a book because I want to learn I forces me to research. So I, you know, I learned a lot about resilience and about how people change and what does change and what doesn’t and
That was very helpful, but in it, I described the value of doing what, what is called a life review when I wrote my, my memoir. I didn’t realize that I was doing a life review and why that’s so important. Even if it’s never published, it doesn’t matter. But, uh, so I would recommend reading my book primetime.
Sarah Jones: I love it. I love it. And this is also to me unique about you that, you know, you’ve written, like you said, you write almost to learn about yourself, but you also study, you study others. From what I can remember, your, uh, activism, your anti war activism also started with reading a book. Isn’t that right?
That’s right.
Jane Fonda: Yeah, I have a lot of book epiphanies a soldier who had been in Vietnam and had fled and come to Paris where I was living and had a family. Um, I didn’t believe the things he was telling me about Vietnam. And he gave me a book by Jonathan shell called the village of Ben. Sook and I read it in a 1 sitting and.
I closed the book and I made a decision to change my life.
Sarah Jones: Wow. And may I ask, what about, cause when you say, here’s this man, right? Telling you he’s his experience and you couldn’t believe it. What do you think that is? Sometimes I think there’s a uniquely American thing that we are either raised to not know. You know, it’s almost like our education system is like, don’t look over here, kid.
Don’t look behind that curtain. You know, maybe it’s not only an American thing,
Do you feel like that was a factor at all?
Jane Fonda: you know, my dad was in the Navy and he was given a bronze star and he, I mean, we were kind of patriotic and I just assumed I wanted to assume that if our soldiers were fighting someplace that we were on the side of the angels. And it was very hard for me to hear the opposite, you know, like when I I’ve been living in France quite for 10 years before that time when I read that book and all the French talking about how terrible it was that we were fighting in Vietnam.
I just viewed it as sour grapes. They’ve been there before we were and they lost the Vietnamese beat them too. And, um, I didn’t allow it in.
Sarah Jones: you say, that is so helpful for me to hear because it gives me compassion for people who say now, right, in 2024, they need to believe what they need to believe about, you know, our behavior as a world power, our, you know, foreign policy and some of the things that we’re doing out there. It helps me to think maybe these people are just.
Jane Fonda: Unable to let in the truth. And when I hear you say, reading this book changed your life. There’s, but I just remembered before I read the book and before I met that soldier, several things had happened that had softened me up. Before I moved to France in the 60s, in the early 60s, I had a friend who was part of the Freedom Rides. These are people, mostly young white students, going from the northern part of North America to down south to register black people to vote.
Sarah Jones: So this was during the civil rights era.
Jane Fonda: Yes. And she, she said, you’ve got to come down. And I did not. I chose instead to go to France. Um,
Sarah Jones: Do you regret that? Do you regret not going on the freedom rides?
Jane Fonda: no, because I needed that time in France to become someone who could handle what was happening in the South.
Sarah Jones: Oh, I love that answer.
Jane Fonda: I made up for it
Sarah Jones: You sure did. I was about to say, but what do you think that is in you, Jane?
Jane Fonda: it could be, I have a very strong feeling about this, that when you’re innocent, when you don’t know, You don’t know once, you know, once you discover something that needs to be acted upon and you don’t, then you’re part of the problem. And, and I just, I want to state that because to show how important protest is. I was pregnant at the time and I was, um, I almost lost the pregnancy. So I was in bed in 1968 when there was this huge March in the United States.
Anti war protesters marching on the Pentagon and the Pentagon surrounded by armed soldiers and these students coming up to them and handing them flowers and protesting and I said, I want to be there. I just felt drawn to those people.
So that made me ready to be reading a book that would change my life.
Sarah Jones: Mm.
Jane Fonda: And, you know, it’s happened to me all reading is, is such a way to make your life better. I think,
Sarah Jones: I mean, I’m grateful for every book you’ve read because vicariously, you know, as you’re talking about this, the parallels, right? The number of times that we as Americans are led to believe whatever it might be, right? Are the people in our government. will tell us that we have to go to war and we have to give up all our tax dollars to, you know, to supposedly fend off a threat somewhere.
And meanwhile, we don’t have education. We don’t have, you know, access to healthcare for everybody. It’s, it makes me think there are many people who still have to keep having that awakening many wars later, but it makes me want to ask you. I mean, and this is important, you could have read that book and maybe even said, Oh, this is an interesting topic.
And sure, you know, I care, but you still could have gone right back to, I mean, you’ve, you’ve once, you’ve been nominated for six Oscars. You won two, you know, um, you know, Early in your career, you cemented your status as a major star. So you could have just, relaxed and lived your life as a celebrated artist who’s smart and cares about things, but you certainly didn’t have to become the Jane Fonda we know.
Jane Fonda: well, it’s, I allowed myself to know whether it was a wounded rabbit in the woods, a kid that was hungry, whatever it is. When I know there’s trouble, it’s very hard for me to not act, to turn away from it, and that’s, you know, that’s what happens in terms of the environment. I, you know, I, I, I’ve always been an environmentalist because I always was nature was my solace.
I was a tomboy outside caring about nature and, you know, and every time there was a protest, I would go and I would speak and, but along about 2019, I read a book by Naomi Klein. It wasn’t the most important book she’s done on climate. I had read another book, but I was ready when I read this book. first of all, it talked about Greta Thunberg, the Swedish climate activist who at 15 sat With a little sign that said, I am on a climate strike from school in front of the Swedish parliament and sparked a global movement.
And at 1st, I learned in this book, she didn’t believe what she was learning from science. Because she thought if what they’re saying is true about global warming, all the adults around me wouldn’t be going about business as usual. All that anybody would be thinking about is, what do we do?
And so she didn’t believe it. And when she realized it was true, she stopped talking and almost stopped eating for almost a year. Her father feels that stunted her growth. She went into a very deep depression. She said, our house is on fire. We cannot go about business as usual.
This is a crisis. And I just, I knew it was true. Then the other thing in the book was the way she talked about the science. It laid it out like homework and I had never really read. Scientific reports,
Sarah Jones: About
Jane Fonda: have our climate emissions in half by 2030. We have to stop all new drilling and fracking and we have to begin a gradual phase out altogether of fossil fuels.
And so that was it. I knew what I had to do. Let’s move to Washington and get arrested. And I did.
Sarah Jones Scarlett: And you started doing , Fire Drill Fridays right, So just so I make it clear for folks, Fire Drill Fridays was you and Greenpeace and activists coming together, I remember, and then you were doing them virtually because of the pandemic,
the,
Jane Fonda: 10 million people following us online after the pandemic hit, we had to do it online. And what was so interesting, Sarah, is we were, we were online with Fire Drill Fridays every Friday with a guest who would come or more than one when George Floyd was murdered. And so we began to have our guests were mostly black, mostly women, not entirely, but mostly black women and some black men talking about the relationship between climate and racism.
And what I, what I learned was there would, if there was no racism, there’d be no climate crisis.
Sarah Jones: wow.
Jane Fonda: If there was no patriarchy, there’d be no climate crisis. It’s a mentality that puts certain people, mainly white men, on top of the pyramid. Nature is at the bottom to be exploited, and then women of color, and then white women, and it goes up to the white men.
And, and it’s a mentality. and um, That was a big for me because it allowed the intersectionality of things that I had been working on to join me in this fight to save us and the climate.
So if you could say to our listeners, you know, first of all, the ways that you can make connect these dots, I think this is so huge. And I think again, the idea of talking about what’s hurting us personally and what’s hurting us as a planet and as a country, those things are so linked and
Sarah Jones: For the person who’s saying, Oh, the environment, I don’t know. That’s not really important. I’m worried about immigration. I’m worried about my relatives getting deported. I’m worried about that. What would you say to people and what would you encourage them to do
if they can’t
Jane Fonda: Well, 1st of all, I just read that the World Health Organization feels that there could be as many as 1. 5 billion climate refugees by mid century. So, if you’re worried about immigration. Just imagine what it’s going to be in 30 years.we, we haven’t even begun to understand what’s going to happen to us if we don’t do something about the climate crisis.
Now, I do individual things. I know that it’s not going to be the solution to the problem, but
because the problem is structural. The problem we, you know, we have all the money. We have the technology. We need now. We don’t need to go and invent a lot of new things.
we have 70 percent of Americans really care. You know, want something to be done. We have everything but the political will we don’t we we don’t have people elected to office who understand the gravity and are willing to be brave enough to do something about it. And that’s why I encourage people to vote with climate in their hearts.
Find out if and you can find out if the person you want to give money to takes money from the. Fossil fuel industry or if you want to vote for somebody, find out if they take money from oil and gas, because a lot of Democrats as well as Republicans do that. And it’s why I started the Jane Fonda climate pack to, to give money to people who vowed never to take money from the fossil fuel industry and to stand up to them when they’re elected to office.
We’ve got to elect people to office that care about the planet and people and not just corporations and not just getting rich. So one of the big things that your listeners can do is vote for people who will care about the planet and you, and not just rich, being rich, rich, rich, and not, you know, a lot of rich people I know are going to vote for the orange guy because he’ll cut their taxes.
Sarah Jones: They get to enjoy 30 more years of good taxes before the planet ceases to exist.
Jane Fonda: No, I mean, it’s just so disturbing.
Sarah Jones: It really–I can’t On that note, and we’ll make sure to link in the description to how folks can learn more about their representatives and get involved
because I think people can feel really hopeless, especially young people. And I remember you talking about, you know, not only how nature has been so important to you, but you can. you know, describe a time when there wasn’t smog in L.
- and freeways and, you know, when the water wasn’t so polluted And so how would you say? Maybe it could help kids who they’ve, all they’ve grown up with is the hopelessness of what you described with Greta Thunberg.
Maybe helping them know another way is possible is that something that you find you have to, Tell young people, Hey, it doesn’t have to be like this.
Jane Fonda: And it’s true. I mean, the scientists are saying it’s not too late. People have to wake up and, and act. Okay, you can act by voting. You can act by joining organizations. You know, if, if, you want to go fast, go alone. But if you want to go far and deep, go together. That’s why when I got struck by a bolt of lightning, reading that book and deciding I wanted to.
Become a climate activist, I called Greenpeace because I wasn’t going to do it by myself. I would have done it all wrong. And it wouldn’t have made any difference. I went to an organization that I knew was brave enough. They were standing up to fossil fuels. Not all big green organizations were even 6 years ago, believe it or not.
And, um. And with Greenpeace, specifically the woman who was running it at that time, Annie Leonard, we built something that that continues. We’re now training people to become organizers and activists
Sarah Jones: Yes. Beautiful. Well, and I know we need to wrap up, Jane. I have to just ask What do you do for joy and for, you know, healing practices?
You’ve mentioned that you write. People can journal if they can’t publish four beautiful books, but what do you suggest for people who just, they need that hope they need that joy practice or that healing practice?
Jane Fonda: Don’t be alone. join an organization, so that you’ll make new friends who share your commitment. Number one, I, you know. I sleep 9 hours every night. So, you
Sarah Jones: the snap Jane. You’re my hero.
Jane Fonda: that helps a lot. I, I walk a lot. and I stay curious and I, most of my really close friends are, you know, share my beliefs and values and passions.
and so I don’t feel alone.
Sarah Jones: You help me feel less alone. You are such a fun hang. Jane Fonda.
Jane Fonda: Well, you’re a fun hang.
Jane Fonda: thank
Sarah Jones: Thank you for spending time with us. And I can’t wait for people to, you know, get on board and vote like our planet and our lives depend on it because they do.
Jane Fonda: Yes. Thank you,
Sarah Jones: Thank you, Jane.
Bella: That was epic!
Lorraine: Listen, us over 85s, we know a thing or two. Remember that next time you call me Boomer.
Bella: I receved that Lorraine.
Rashid: Yeah. Jane got me with that whole starting out military father, patriotic and all that. But then learning the truth about the Vietnam war.
Bella: Yeah. Like no cap. Every time she mentioned Vietnam, I just kept thinking about Gaza and Sudan and Congo and like how so few people even know what’s really happening. But I guess it also gave me some hope. But like, if she woke up, maybe we will too, eventually.
Nereida: Well, I also appreciated that she said it’s all connected. Like most people don’t realize wars don’t just destroy people. They destroy the planet too. And like she said, if you care about immigration or women’s rights, racism, you have to care about the climate because we’re impacted the most by all of it.
Rashid: Yeah, true facts. But did you also hear her say you need to go for a walk sometimes too? I’m not saying stop doing the work. I’m saying you got to have other parts of your life that’s feeding you. You feel me?
Sarah Jones: Exactly, Rashid. Fighting for the change we need is so necessary and it can be rewarding. But it can also be super overwhelming. So alongside our activism, we need to have other aspects of our life that fill us up. Which brings me to this week’s prompt and thinking about some practices that can replenish and sustain us, not just till November, but till we’re in our eighties and beyond. So if you’re with me. Let’s get quiet, put your hand on your heart and think about something that really lights you up.
Something super easy to access though. Like, especially when things feel toughest, maybe it’s cuddling with your kids or your pets. I’m looking at you, my fellow childless cat ladies, or maybe there’s a favorite playlist. You can sing or dance to in your living room just for five minutes. If that’s all you have, but 15 would really get your endorphins going.
Just saying, or. For those times when even reaching for a playlist feels impossible, or mobility issues or fatigue make movement harder, I’ve actually just learned that a deep breath in, followed by a deep hum out as you exhale, kind of like saying om in a yoga class, can instantly calm your entire nervous system.
Try doing it several times in a row. We’ll link to more info about this technique and the science behind it, which real talk, a lot of folks grandma’s probably been doing in a church pew or temple somewhere most of their lives, but we’ll share more in the show notes.
Jane also mentioned her habits of reading, writing, being in nature.
You can pick whatever appeals to you. And add it to your list to have handy on your phone or your fridge door, somewhere that can remind you to find balance when it all gets to be too much. Let us know if you try any of this and if you haven’t done one of our prompts yet and shared about it with us on social media, we hope you reach out because we would love to hear from you.
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